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Robert Beyer
I'm not sure if that's what Jumper is wanting to (become to) be but for a media management tool and to be honest even for a search I need some tags that are not part of the footage itself like shooting day, shooting location, take, project. There are many informations I could think about, that can't be analyzed by footage alone. So "no tags needed" doesn't apply to my use-case.
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mgl
Thank you Robert Beyer, I think this is the same request we have gotten before about extended "metadata filters", that you can apply to limit the media that is considered for your actual search query. Does that sound correct? Not sure if this has been requested on this site yet, but I know we have discussed it in Discord, feel free to join at discord.gg/3JFNYAfwSb
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Robert Beyer
mgl it sounds somewhat like it. But this metadata have to come from somewhere. Shooting/recording day could be extracted from the file but more sophisticated information like takes not so much (not every camera allows adding descriptive metadata and sometimes that possibilities are not used, even if available).
While I see the benefit of AI in this topic, I don't feel safe using it as complete replacement to (manual) tagging.
In this forum here I only found the "Auto - Scene and Take detection Metadata" but it seems a bit overcomplicated and inaccurate to not have tags to work with or to filter for (it reminds me of slightly different named tags that are a pain to work with as they are describing the same category but are separate)
The "Search for specific camera movements" also has a good point what benefit categories/tags still hold. They are, maintaned in a good way, super helpful to find stuff quick and I don't have to adapt to a specific way to ask AI for it. AI search is great for more desscriptive search but for basic information, that (for camera movements) never canges, a dropdown selection or a selection of tags the AI has to apply/select from, would make more sense to me.
Let's say, I'm about to edit a show reel or retrospect of a spefiic customer with footage from several projects.
First I would filter for customer, then for specific projects as a base (filtering before searching), then maybe for shooting day, specific people and from there it gets more descriptive like time of day, camera movement or perspective, content of the shot, statements. While the latter part often won't be tagged in such granular way, as they are way too detailed. The basic information or "hard facts" are quite static (a good thing in my opinion, as I don't have to worry, my description wouldn't be picked up right)
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mgl
Robert Beyer Thanks Robert, I see what you're saying and it's some version of what we've heard before.
We would need to get this data from somewhere, not using AI since this is domain specific things that would have to come from user specified metadata.
What you can do today in Jumper is to use the context picker on the left side of the search input to select which folders/bins/events to search in. If you have already organised content by e.g. different customers like that, you could achieve the first filter from there. Then search for the more detailed query and hopefully that would just work to find what you're looking for without doing the "manual" filtering steps?